Jamal goes on to talk about Jesus' interaction with the Samaritan woman from John 4 as an example of what a vibrant, inter-dependent relationship with God can look like, and how this differs from the typical codependent relationship with God that the religious system has conditioned us for.  Finally, Jamal also shares how the attempt of many Christians to relate to the historical person of Jesus (who is no longer here on the earth) actually blinds us to the reality of Christ who is here.  Throw some headphones in and give this episode a careful listen.  

In part 2 of this conversation, Wayne touches on the back story behind each one of his books, including the New York Times best selling book The Shack, He Loves Me, Finding Church, and So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore.  

Wayne also discusses the motion picture of The Shack that is scheduled for box office release early next year. Give this conversation a listen as you will hear nuggets of a new reality!

In this episode of The Love Cast, Wayne Jacobsen talks about his personal journey dealing with betrayal and character assassination, and his awakening to the body of Christ outside of groups and religious institutions.  Wayne also touches on his rejection of the destructive religious doctrine of the cross typically understood as 'Penal Substitution Theory'. Give this episode a listen, you will be blessed.    

Wayne Jacobsen was a collaborator of the New York Times best selling book The Shack. Wayne is also the author of the following best selling books:

He Loves Me

Finding Church

So You Don't Want To Go To Church Anymore.  

For more information about Wayne's books and ministry, visit www.lifestream.org

There is a vast difference between 'getting married' and 'discovering marriage'.  In this episode of The Love Cast, you will hear the wedding ceremony of friends Patrick & Samara and the message that Jamal gave at their recent wedding ceremony.  In this ceremony, Jamal talks about the 'expanse' of love, and why no one actually gets married on their wedding day.  Give it a careful listen and be blessed!